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Comments on Why does a conductor need to gesture and hand wave, to "conduct" John Cage's 4′33″?

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Why does a conductor need to gesture and hand wave, to "conduct" John Cage's 4′33″? [duplicate]

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Closed as duplicate by Monica Cellio‭ on Apr 3, 2024 at 03:11

This question has been addressed elsewhere. See: Why do you need sheet music of John Cage's 4′33″ to perform it?

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At 0:24, as this comment correctly REaffirms

Love how serious the conductor is, putting his hand up for all the time

Kirill Petrenko starts his handwaving. Why? His handwaving and gestures feel guileful, UNfrank and UNcandid. Why didn't he simply stand there during 4'33", before concluding?

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gmcgath‭ wrote almost 2 years ago

There is no requirement, either by Cage or by performance tradition, for a conductor to "gesture and hand wave." I wouldn't even describe this video as "hand waving"; he holds up his hands still and occasionally changes their position.

He does rush the tempo, though. :) The video is only 3 minutes 42 seconds long.